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daverosthorn
16-03-2006, 05:22 PM
Does anyone have an ACTIVpanel? They look really cool! Are they any good? :)

Dave +wave+ clwn

John Fearn
16-03-2006, 10:17 PM
I've seen one in use at a Promethean Best Practice event that we hosted last July. They are very impressive. The model I saw in use included a very solid support stand which made it very easy to use - it didn't have the unfortunate "bounce" I've experienced with using a tablet pc in a similar role.

airskeeter
16-03-2006, 10:44 PM
The panel is an awesome tool for a large group solution as well as other needs.

Our TLC in North Florida, had one installed for a quadraplegic student to use to participate in writing on the board. It is an excellent story that I hope is shared here or on the website somewhere.

daverosthorn
17-03-2006, 09:00 AM
I was thinking of using it to control a PC connected to a MASSIVE board we've got. the board isn't Promethean-built (more of just a white display) and I figured it'd be hard to control using a wireless mouse (i'll test this theory later).

John Fearn
17-03-2006, 07:55 PM
The Promethean team used the panel with a laptop, projector and folding screen - I seem to remember it was about 4 metres by 3 metres. Obviously in this sort of situation the only "interactive" device is the panel.

daverosthorn
20-03-2006, 09:17 AM
The Promethean team used the panel with a laptop, projector and folding screen - I seem to remember it was about 4 metres by 3 metres. Obviously in this sort of situation the only "interactive" device is the panel.

Yeah, it'd be similar to what I'm thinking what it'd be good for :) [clap]

airskeeter
20-03-2006, 01:58 PM
Dave,

It is excellent for that use.

daverosthorn
20-03-2006, 03:09 PM
Dave,

It is excellent for that use.

Looks like it's managerial convincing time then :D

*hums the tune to hammertime*

Peter Lambert
20-03-2006, 03:50 PM
Dave,

Slightly off topic, but relevant to FE. What does the Promethean solution offer to FE that any of the other board solutions doesn't? I mean are there compelling reasons for an FE college to buy from us raher than say S***t?
That spells Smart by the way!:rolleyes:

daverosthorn
20-03-2006, 04:40 PM
Dave,

Slightly off topic, but relevant to FE. What does the Promethean solution offer to FE that any of the other board solutions doesn't? I mean are there compelling reasons for an FE college to buy from us raher than say S***t?
That spells Smart by the way!:rolleyes:

I've seen smart, and their boards are quite simply, s**t. (Unlike your post, this DOESN'T say smart - haha)

Tbh, I've not seen too many different products or brands but, from what i've seen, Promethean & ACTIVstudio is, quite simply, perfect. The combination of the software itself to bring interactivity into the classroom, as well as the hardware that comes with it (I don't think we've had a serious malfunction yet?) is purely excellent. The original choice to use Promethean was my manager's. I wasn't even working for T2 when the decision was made, so it obviously wasn't my decision to make, yet I believe he probably made the right decision.

Yeah, there's LOADS of stuff that you guys could develop that would benefit us but I think a lot of that is way into the future, when we can offer you something (material) in return.

Because you're probably wondering.. the reason we DONT share a lot of the resources that we produce is because:


We're a commercial company, just like yourselves. We don't want our competitors getting hold of our teaching resources. We wouldn't be near as successful if we spoonfed the rest of the FE institutes out there, would we?
Because FE resources are generally so hard to come by, we often find ourselves buying external packages. As we're still in the early stages of developing our teaching resources to their full potential, external resources make up a huge amount of the flipcharts, etc. that we produce.. we're simply not allowed to share that stuff, for copyright purposes


Oh, and ACTIVote is great.

Cheers,
Dave clwn +wave+

P.S. are you trying to say that there are better solutions out there for us?!

Peter Lambert
21-03-2006, 11:16 AM
Thanks for that Dave[clap] My reason for asking was that we are looking to expand much further into FE. Because your organisation has had our products for a long time and are using them exceptionally well, I was hoping to pick up some plus points to promote our solutions. :)

daverosthorn
21-03-2006, 11:44 AM
Peter,

I believe that Promethean are going to be recording a video around May at T2. Michele (Ms. ACTIVote) is involved, I believe! There should be loads of promo material available for you when that's been done :cool:

J Boucke
25-03-2006, 04:54 PM
Dear Dave and Peter
:rolleyes: In following your recent discussion I have a question and a comment. What is FE?
The comment to tag onto Dave's discussion about not uploading resources. I am having great success as we all are with ACTIVBoard, slate, and vote. But, 95% of my material I develop is copyright based stuff from my classroom textbooks or material I spin out of a lesson or suggested lesson I find on the web.
Locally my reseller is Logical Choice and I have shared some of my material with their area reps, because they can demo classroom tested pages, but that is only for demo purposes. I'm sure we all have flipcharts that really work, but can't share for the reasons Dave mentioned.
Well that's all, thanks for reading.

J +wave+

airskeeter
25-03-2006, 05:07 PM
Jim,

I may be wrong but FE is equivalent to vocational education....Dave, Peter??

Margaret Allen
26-03-2006, 02:30 PM
Hi JBoucke,

I met a load of the Logical Choice team this week at FETC... Cynthia is a great enthusiast!

http://www.prometheanworld.com/common/html/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=1310&highlight=copyright Not sure if this helps at all. It is such a grey area!

As I understand it, what you can do with materials depends upon the licence
the originator put to the materials. The usual copyright notice may well
mean that the materials may not be distributed but if the person who made
the web graphic has protected their materials with a creative commons
copyright then all could be well!

Go to http://creativecommons.org/ (http://creativecommons.org/) for more details about the different
licences and what they mean - it'll be easier to understand there than for
me to explain, particularly if you view the cartoon comics available from
http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses/ (http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses/) .

Hope that helps - maybe more people ought to know about and make use of the
different options available to help everyone use web based resources
legally!

btw HE is Higher Education FE is Further Education...... HE is University FE is College.

+wave+

airskeeter
26-03-2006, 03:26 PM
btw HE is Higher Education FE is Further Education...... HE is University FE is College.

You will have to delineate the difference between College and University, in the UK. MNy impression is: college in the UK is a type of vocational college....am I correct, while University was post secondary degrees etc....

We need that set up in the States!!!

daverosthorn
27-03-2006, 08:10 AM
You will have to delineate the difference between College and University, in the UK. MNy impression is: college in the UK is a type of vocational college....am I correct, while University was post secondary degrees etc....

We need that set up in the States!!!

In my case, FE is Further Education in terms of Occupational Training - i.e. learning to be a plumber, car mechanic, dental nurse, administrator, etc. (Apprenticeships for those in the UK)